So what if there was a TOB/Battle of the Books for the books with less star power?

(YA book tournament is a tentative go! Visit our group to recommend some titles or become a judge (or both).)

SLJ is doing Battle of the Books. It’s the kidlit version of the Walk of Fame and features a lot of the Big Name Books and Big Name Authors. I’ve been following, but my interest was poked with a sharp stick when the Battle Commander posted an update linking to someone who wasn’t happy.

That might be an understatement, actually. “Wasn’t happy” doesn’t seem to cut through the amount of disgust and annoyance present in that blog. It’s not invalid criticism, but here’s the lesson I’ve gained from a few years in fandom: if you want to read some awesome boys kissing, you write it yourself. By which I mean: if the SLJ Battle of the Books seems heavily weighted in favor of books that are so famous already they blind you when you part the pages, maybe there should be another version for the books that are unloved and weeping in the corner. It’s not backed by th SLJ reputation, sure, but it’s still filled with love.

Then, of course, I opened my mouth on Twitter and five people were suddenly like, “You should do it!” YOU ALL ARE TERRIBLE INFLUENCES. You know who you are.

Here’s the thing, and what I couldn’t say in 140 character reply: I would love to, but I…don’t think I’m popular enough or trusted enough? I’m not trying to invite, “Renay! You’re totally awesome!” comments, I’m just being honest about my presence in the kidlitosphere which is tenuous at best. That might be generous; I am pretty sure I curse too much and don’t read widely enough and also I don’t like The Hunger Games as much as anyone else which is like two and a half strikes against me and I haven’t even done anything yet except be a loudmouth. I lack the critical mass. Guys, I am not bookshelves of doom or The YA YA YAs. I am just a YA lit dreamer bitter that none of the books in SLJ’s Battle include stories where boys make out and that Frankie lost in the Tournament of Books! Twice! Judged lacking by men.

*grumble*

Also, If there was such a tournament; what books should be in it? If we looked at what I consider The Big Three: Top Ten Best Books for Young Adults and the Printz and the NBA and said to those nominees and winners, “Congrats on your success, but you don’t count for this?” what would we list? How would we even decide? I sure wouldn’t know where to begin.

Roger (’ware the bitterness in the comments from the anonymice) has a good point about the fame of those books and the judges carrying the tournament. I agree with the blogger he linked to a point, but as per usual when I disagree with how something’s done, my idea is to take it and do it myself, which says something about my ego (huge and relentless, also 20 feet tall and coming for your children and small animals). My idea was to ignore the fame aspect (which wouldn’t work for some reason??), choose 16 YA books that didn’t get a lot of play but were loved by bloggers who have only their reputations to back them up and go to town. Bonus if each battle consisted of two bloggers to discuss one book, do a co-review/comparison and choose one to proceed to the next round. Even if the exposure is to readers of our blogs, isn’t that better than none? Isn’t one reader swayed to try a book something to be celebrated, possibly with cake1? Nerdy book tournament: check! Promotion across various participant blogs for lesser-known YA books: check! Community-building: check! Possibly meeting awesome new bloggers and friends: check! Downsides: no fame or fortune for judges, strange looks from the kidlitosphere elite, possible financial requirements.

It’s a pretty idea, though. Is anyone as crazy as I am?

1 Screw possibly. There will definitely be cake.

(YA book tournament is a tentative go! Visit our group to recommend some titles or become a judge (or both).)

20 comments

Nymeth said:

Cake! I am totally in. I agree that a bit of exposure is better than none. And I love the discussion/co-review/comparison idea.

posted on April 1st, 2009
Trisha said:

Renay! You’re totally awesome!

Dude, with no false modesty on my part, I so don’t think we/I are that high on the YA blog echelon.

But getting on topic, I say if you’re running the show, you can do whatever you want, and I don’t think you necessarily need to justify it with unselfish reasons to make it worthwhile. I agree that there’s nothing wrong with increased exposure to participating blog(ger)s being a benefit; I mean, there is a certain self-centeredness involved with deciding to blog and putting your opinions out there for anyone to see in the first place. If a blog is promoted as a result of participating in something like this, I don’t exactly see the problem. But I’d be willing to bet that most, if not all, bloggers who’d participate would do so more because they love YA literature than out of the desire to draw more traffic to their blogs. Or am I being naive?

In any case, I’d be too lazy to organize something like this (which is why I was one of they people who said you should do it), but I think it’d be fun to participate in and wouldn’t mind getting involved in discussing some of the more logistical and organizational aspects, if need be.

posted on April 1st, 2009
Mary Ann said:

Hey, I love this idea – particularly the idea of two bloggers agreeing on which book moves on. It’d be particularly interesting if they disagreed – they could carry on the conversation in public. I am not a force in YA Blogging at all but I’d come on board. I might even help you organize if you wanted to go for it . . .

posted on April 1st, 2009
trish said:

I’m rather new to the YA genre, and while I loved The Hunger Games, I won’t hold it against you. I really enjoyed The Da Vinci Code, which labels me The Reader With No Taste in many people’s eyes.

So I know you don’t know me, but I’d totally help you out in any way I could! Really, I’m not just saying that. :-) And even if you don’t need my help (*sob*), I’ll follow along.

posted on April 1st, 2009
Renay said:

@ Nymeth I totally stole this idea from you (also, it reminded me of something Dewey would totally champion, which makes it doubly enticing).

posted on April 1st, 2009
Renay said:

@ Trisha You might be be high up there, but yours was the first YA blog I ever read. You will always be first in my heart.

Well, we saw what having a contest full of famous books and famous authors did criticism-wise; I’m not sure I’d care much if someone said, “Oh, that blogger trying to gain exposure!” because well, of course I would be, since I would want the people to look at the books! Also, I’ll be honest, I’m conceited and want people to listen to what I have to say, which includes, “Where are the GLBTQ books!” Although in my head it would basically be an excuse to toss some books together and some bloggers and do co-reviews like Susan and I did for Peeps? Forcing people to tl;dr since 2007!

I don’t mind organizing things at all, it’s just I feel like I don’t have the resources. I didn’t read very widely in YA in 2008, so I’m not sure of what’s out there, or how to compile a good list. If you have ideas you’d like to float my way, I would love them with MOUTH really appreciate them. >.> I don’t mind herding cats. :)

posted on April 1st, 2009
Renay said:

@ Mary Ann Yes! The general idea for them was to hash it out between themselves and compose a post where they talk back and forth about the books. In my head it would be awesome! I just don’t know; to do 16 books in eight rounds we’d need 16 bloggers to commit to read two books.

Complicated, but epic if successful.

posted on April 1st, 2009
Renay said:

@ trish Don’t worry, I’m pretty new myself; 2007 was when I started reading YA again after years away? You’re not alone, anyway, and I don’t think it’s necessary to turn any sort of project into something only veteran YA readers could take part in. The whole point is to make it accessible to people who might not read YA yet. :D

posted on April 1st, 2009

I love the idea! And just an fyi…this is the kind of thing that puts you on the map as a blogger…so don’t be worried you’re not popular enough!

So glad to be a bad influence!

posted on April 4th, 2009
Vasilly said:

I know this is a great idea, Renay! Count me in for anything you need. I feel like I don’t read enough y.a. as it is. Why don’t begin with everyone making suggestions then weeding the list down?

posted on April 5th, 2009
Renay said:

@ Amy I hope you’re able to come recommend some books, at least. :D

posted on April 6th, 2009
Renay said:

@ Vasilly Yes! I have started the process of dragging recs from people’s brains. I’ve updated this post with the link to our google group where we’re discussing it. Stop by! :D

posted on April 6th, 2009
valentina said:

I wanna be in! I don’t know how but I want to!
And if I suggest a book, does it exclude me from being a judge? (given that I obviously love that book already?)
ok, I go and read the group posts now…

posted on April 6th, 2009
Becky said:

I mentioned this on twitter but as I haven’t heard back from you…I do want in :)

posted on April 7th, 2009
mta said:

My good sir –

For the record, Octavian Nothing contains boys making out.

xxo

mta

posted on April 24th, 2009
Renay said:

@ mta: I CAN’T DECIDE. I’m torn! To know there are boys kissing but to know there are boys kissing without having read the book (because I haven’t, not yet. Not because I don’t love Octavian because I do, just, you know, I’m lazy). You can see my dilemma, I think? It doesn’t change the FACTS and the FACTS are that Octavian is super popular and isn’t getting attention for the boys kissing, which was my point that I didn’t bother to express. Sorry about that.

Also, hi, I am a girl. :D

posted on April 24th, 2009
mta said:

whoops (**blushes**)

In any event, I think your idea of a discussion of lesser-known books is an excellent one … — potentially much more valuable for most readers!

Have you checked out the Cybil Awards? They don’t _overtly_ discount award-winners, but they tend to focus on books that haven’t yet received the love …

Still xxo,

mta

posted on April 24th, 2009
Renay said:

@ mta: Well, the group of bloggers that took pity on me for my crazy ideas are currently working on choosing 16 titles from our long list.

Cybils! I love the Cybils; I actually raided their long list for book ideas for our book tournament. Quite a few made it on. I think the Cybils benefits from being a blogger-nomination award, so it was really useful. Also, we have some Cybils panelists helping with the tournament and they are AWESOME.

…Cybils should be INTERNATIONALLY recognized for its awesomeness and have its own sticker. That’s a rant for another time, though because if I start I’ll be here for three hours. >>

posted on April 24th, 2009

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