Adventures in Recommendation Lists: You Better Not Get Any of That Gay Over Here

I see what you’re thinking, internets. You are sitting at your computer, wondering, “Why is Renay asking for recommendations for books without same sex make-outs or sexy times? Is she ILL?” Oh, internets, I am ill. I am.

I have a friend who we will call Horace. Horace and I have become good pals through our love of reading. I have loaned them several great books, one of which was My Most Excellent Year. I loved that story. I ran into a snag with Horace, though. See, Horace has this…thing. They can’t read books with the following traits:

  • Main character death—if the character has a big-to-mid-sized role, it’s a no go.
  • Hardcore SF/F—can’t handle it! Doesn’t work.
  • Gay People—if you’re gay, Horace will be friends with you (Hi, Horace!) but fuck if they’ll read about those evil gay people who are definitely going to hell for having weird and gross sex.

I might be hanging on to a little residual anger. You know, perhaps.

I will be honest! I may live in the reddest state, in the reddest county in the country, where “Democrat” means “Rethuglican in disguise” and there are four anti-choice billboards on my route to work, but I do a pretty good job of insulating myself and keeping my circle of friends tightly controlled. I was shocked, and hurt, and disappointed in Horace when they told me they couldn’t read this book because of one gay character, one storyline that contained at most, chaste first-love antics. I did not know this about Horace, this aversion to gay people: the Othering, the erasing of, the “if I don’t see it they don’t exist” decisions they made. It has thrown me!

Because, and if you’ve read this blog for awhile you will know this about me: boys kissing is my forte. I read it, I write it, I promote it, I am a big fan. I could handle the no-death stuff, and yeah, no serious SF/F would be hard but doable, but by adding in this new rule, no icky gays, I’m stumped. I went from having tons of recs for romances to having almost none I could share with Horace. I feel adrift! I am, honestly, a little heartbroken, not just because Horace will miss out on books I think are amazing, but because I feel like a friend has rejected part of who I am. Like just because I am a girl, and think girls are totally hot, I am less worthy. YET, I do not want to give up my friendship with Horace, however masochistic that will be for me in the future.

Thus, people who read! I have come to the intertubes seeking your help. I have with me a list of books and series Horace has loved and I ask of you to read them and think about what other books Horace might like based on the titles listed. Feel free to help and, to cheer me up, feel free to add My Most Excellent Year to your reading list. It’s worth it, icky gays and all.

Books I have recommended that Horace has liked:

  • All titles by Sarah Dessen
  • All titles by Elizabeth Scott (excepting Living Dead Girl and Love You Hate You Miss You which break a rule)
  • The Twilight Saga
  • Graceling
  • The Hunger Games (I do not know how this survived the character death rule, but it did)
  • Suite Scarlett (and I’ve recced Johnson’s other books that don’t break the rules)
  • The Disreputable History of Frankie Landau-Banks
  • The Adoration of Jenna Fox

If you have titles you think would be appropriate and don’t violate the rules, please share them! I would really appreciate it. :)

6 comments

Lu said:

Siiiigh, I do not understand people like Horace :(. Added bonus: I just named my new car Horace. But that Horace would read books with all kinds of kissing, you know, if my car could read.

But in any case, The Latent Powers of Dylan Fontaine would work, I think.

posted on July 5th, 2009
Nymeth said:

Horace is making the WHOLE INTERNET sad :( Actually, I’m at a loss here. I get so many of my YA recommendations from you, which means a lot of them do contain boys kissing :P Which is awesome, but not for Horace. Sigh.

I see Graceling on the list, so it’s safe to assume that Horace like fantasy? In which case, maybe the Annals of the Western Shore trilogy by Ursula Le Guin?

Also, I recently read and loved A Separate Peace by John Knowles. It’s a boarding school story set in the 40’s, and the only reason why it’s not YA is because they didn’t market it as that back in 1959.

posted on July 5th, 2009
Kay said:

Oh, my. This post was both funny and sad, you know? When you laugh at the irony, but it’s not actually funny? I know “Horaces”, too, and they’re sometimes really hard to understand.

Because I just read it and it’s on my mind : Two Way Street by Lauren Barnholdt. Also, Prada and Prejudice by MAndy Hubbard. Cracked up to Be, by Courtney Summers? I don’t know if Horace tolerates language better than gays, though? Because there are a few swears in Two Way Street and Cracked up to be…

posted on July 5th, 2009

Why Horace, WHY? I thought this was the 21st Century!

posted on July 6th, 2009
Jodie said:

I just found out something similar about a friend I’ve had for the longest time and although I always knew they had right wing views I didn’t know how right wing (like I’m balencing on the very tip of the right wing stretching my hand way out with a very long stick) until recently. Sad that this had to come up between you and Horace (which is clearly bad name revenge in its funniest form). How about trying The Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants series or Hilary McKay’s books (The Exiles etc) or Into/Out of the Wild by Sarah Beth Durst.

posted on July 12th, 2009
libraryliz said:

I really love the Ruby Oliver series: The Boyfriend List, The Boy Book & The Treasure Map of Boys, which just came out.
However, would Horace want to be seen carrying around books that feature those titles on the cover(given that I’m guessing Horace is a boy?)…still, E. Lockhart titles are good!

posted on July 29th, 2009